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		<title>Comment on The Weakest Link by Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a student, I can confirm that IGM do not perform as well when left to do independent tasks. Also, superior group members must often work harder when paired with IGMs to achieve "acceptable" project results. However, superior group members, when not placed in a position of responsibility (or the product isn't graded), will likely have motivation losses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a student, I can confirm that IGM do not perform as well when left to do independent tasks. Also, superior group members must often work harder when paired with IGMs to achieve &#8220;acceptable&#8221; project results. However, superior group members, when not placed in a position of responsibility (or the product isn&#8217;t graded), will likely have motivation losses.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Weakest Link by keithsawyer</title>
		<link>http://keithsawyer.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/the-weakest-link/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>keithsawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's great to read your comments on the posting.  So here is a bit more detail about the meta-analysis of 17 previous studies.  The historical background is psychological research going back to the 1970s that seemed to show that people exert less effort when working in a group: the famous "social loafing" problem.  The technical term for this is "motivation losses."  But more recent research shows that in some groups, individuals increase their effort compared to working alone, and this is known as "motivation gains."  The article that I cited was focused on the question: are there motivation gains in groups that specifically impact the IGMs?  They found that there were.  But they don't have any data about the total group performance, unfortunately.

There are two possible reasons why IGM motivation could increase in mixed groups: one is "upward social comparison," the IGMs adjust their performance upward to match the average performance of the group (which is higher than their solitary level).  Of course, the flip side of this is that the superior GMs would then be expected to adjust their performance downward, which touches on Drew's comment.  The authors of this article note this too: "One frequent concern is that motivation gains of IGMs might come
at the price of motivation losses by superior group members so that
the overall gain for the group outcome might be nullified."  

The second reason is "social indispensability," the IGM motivation goes up if they know their contribution is critical to the group product.  But if the IGM senses that their contribution is NOT indispensable, their motivation goes down.  That happens when, for example, the group's performance is determined by the strongest individual performance, or when a poor performance by one member can be compensated for by another.  

The meta-analysis I cited examined this by comparing task conditions, and confirmed that IGM motivation goes up more when their contribution is indispensable.

Other findings of this article: the motivation gain for IGMs is greater when (1) the members of the group are physically in the same room together, versus online or distant collaboration, and (2) when the task involved physical work rather than purely cognitive work.

So what about the key question you both ask: Is the group output better with mixed groups?  This study focused on the motivation level of individual IGMs, and the authors say "it will be difficult to predict the overall outcome of complex work groups based on only these results." But here are the implications they propose for managers:

1. "Utilize upward comparison mechanisms" by providing performance information about superior coworkers.

2. "Utilize indispensability effects by stressing the importance of IGMs' contribution to the overall group outcome."

One last comment for Cherry, regarding learning: there is a long tradition of research by Johnson &#38; Johnson showing that when students of mixed abilities are grouped together, the low ability students learn more, and the high ability students learn just as much as when they're grouped with other high ability students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great to read your comments on the posting.  So here is a bit more detail about the meta-analysis of 17 previous studies.  The historical background is psychological research going back to the 1970s that seemed to show that people exert less effort when working in a group: the famous &#8220;social loafing&#8221; problem.  The technical term for this is &#8220;motivation losses.&#8221;  But more recent research shows that in some groups, individuals increase their effort compared to working alone, and this is known as &#8220;motivation gains.&#8221;  The article that I cited was focused on the question: are there motivation gains in groups that specifically impact the IGMs?  They found that there were.  But they don&#8217;t have any data about the total group performance, unfortunately.</p>
<p>There are two possible reasons why IGM motivation could increase in mixed groups: one is &#8220;upward social comparison,&#8221; the IGMs adjust their performance upward to match the average performance of the group (which is higher than their solitary level).  Of course, the flip side of this is that the superior GMs would then be expected to adjust their performance downward, which touches on Drew&#8217;s comment.  The authors of this article note this too: &#8220;One frequent concern is that motivation gains of IGMs might come<br />
at the price of motivation losses by superior group members so that<br />
the overall gain for the group outcome might be nullified.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The second reason is &#8220;social indispensability,&#8221; the IGM motivation goes up if they know their contribution is critical to the group product.  But if the IGM senses that their contribution is NOT indispensable, their motivation goes down.  That happens when, for example, the group&#8217;s performance is determined by the strongest individual performance, or when a poor performance by one member can be compensated for by another.  </p>
<p>The meta-analysis I cited examined this by comparing task conditions, and confirmed that IGM motivation goes up more when their contribution is indispensable.</p>
<p>Other findings of this article: the motivation gain for IGMs is greater when (1) the members of the group are physically in the same room together, versus online or distant collaboration, and (2) when the task involved physical work rather than purely cognitive work.</p>
<p>So what about the key question you both ask: Is the group output better with mixed groups?  This study focused on the motivation level of individual IGMs, and the authors say &#8220;it will be difficult to predict the overall outcome of complex work groups based on only these results.&#8221; But here are the implications they propose for managers:</p>
<p>1. &#8220;Utilize upward comparison mechanisms&#8221; by providing performance information about superior coworkers.</p>
<p>2. &#8220;Utilize indispensability effects by stressing the importance of IGMs&#8217; contribution to the overall group outcome.&#8221;</p>
<p>One last comment for Cherry, regarding learning: there is a long tradition of research by Johnson &amp; Johnson showing that when students of mixed abilities are grouped together, the low ability students learn more, and the high ability students learn just as much as when they&#8217;re grouped with other high ability students.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About Keith Sawyer by keithsawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>keithsawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am delighted to hear that your company is reading my new book.  It is filled with advice and information that can make any organization more innovative, and it's based on the latest research on group creativity.  

Many Asian countries are keenly interested in this topic; GROUP GENIUS has been translated into Chinese (both modern and traditional), Korean, and Japanese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am delighted to hear that your company is reading my new book.  It is filled with advice and information that can make any organization more innovative, and it&#8217;s based on the latest research on group creativity.  </p>
<p>Many Asian countries are keenly interested in this topic; GROUP GENIUS has been translated into Chinese (both modern and traditional), Korean, and Japanese.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About Keith Sawyer by Mathinee Theabrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mathinee Theabrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Sawyer,

Last week,I got a big question! Why did my CEO give your book (Group Genius) for us. The question drive me for searching your informations about your books. Maybe if you check on a number of selling from Thailand, you will found that the big company bought a numerous of books. I am the one who work at this place, and received the book form my boss. (www.scg.co.th.) 

By the way, I'm glade to read your book!

Sincerely yours,

Mathinee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Sawyer,</p>
<p>Last week,I got a big question! Why did my CEO give your book (Group Genius) for us. The question drive me for searching your informations about your books. Maybe if you check on a number of selling from Thailand, you will found that the big company bought a numerous of books. I am the one who work at this place, and received the book form my boss. (www.scg.co.th.) </p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m glade to read your book!</p>
<p>Sincerely yours,</p>
<p>Mathinee</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Weakest Link by Cherry Woodburn</title>
		<link>http://keithsawyer.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/the-weakest-link/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>Cherry Woodburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS-the research said the IGM work harder when with superior groups but is the output of the group better than if just the "superior" performers worked in a group?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS-the research said the IGM work harder when with superior groups but is the output of the group better than if just the &#8220;superior&#8221; performers worked in a group?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Weakest Link by Cherry Woodburn</title>
		<link>http://keithsawyer.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/the-weakest-link/#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>Cherry Woodburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith,

My son &#38; his girlfriend, who are recent college graduates, have had some difficulty in the workforce. They think if they perform well they should get an "A". There are expectations they have related to work that they thought would mimic college life. It doesn't. I know this is not the point of your blog entry but it made me think of it. Asking to be grouped with the brightest (and students' criteria for this is limited)  is not a request typically entertained by the manager. 
I also recalled an episode of the short lived TV series Fame. There was a dance that was going to be staged and the best dancers are vying for the lead. The instructor gives the lead to someone at the school who is a 'non-dancer.' The students are upset; Debbie Allen tells them that sometimes the biggest name, not the best dancer gets the role and it's the dancers job to make him look good. Life lesson. Thanks for letting me ramble and thanks for the research info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith,</p>
<p>My son &amp; his girlfriend, who are recent college graduates, have had some difficulty in the workforce. They think if they perform well they should get an &#8220;A&#8221;. There are expectations they have related to work that they thought would mimic college life. It doesn&#8217;t. I know this is not the point of your blog entry but it made me think of it. Asking to be grouped with the brightest (and students&#8217; criteria for this is limited)  is not a request typically entertained by the manager.<br />
I also recalled an episode of the short lived TV series Fame. There was a dance that was going to be staged and the best dancers are vying for the lead. The instructor gives the lead to someone at the school who is a &#8216;non-dancer.&#8217; The students are upset; Debbie Allen tells them that sometimes the biggest name, not the best dancer gets the role and it&#8217;s the dancers job to make him look good. Life lesson. Thanks for letting me ramble and thanks for the research info.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Weakest Link by Drew Boyd</title>
		<link>http://keithsawyer.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/the-weakest-link/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith, this is very interesting to me as I face this both in the corporate environment as well as teaching at the graduate business school level (my grading philosophy is the same as yours, by the way).  While I am not surprised that IGM's work harder, the question is: is it hard enough?  When business leaders approach me with an initiative, I ask them whether they want to 1. raise the mean performance of the group, or 2. reduce the variance of the group.  These are very different endpoints as you know, and it results in a different intervention for IGM's.  More importantly, it results in a different intervention for SGM's, too.  Bottom line for me is to mix them.  That at least harnesses the diversity of insight, though it can cause a drag on performance.  

Thanks for sharing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith, this is very interesting to me as I face this both in the corporate environment as well as teaching at the graduate business school level (my grading philosophy is the same as yours, by the way).  While I am not surprised that IGM&#8217;s work harder, the question is: is it hard enough?  When business leaders approach me with an initiative, I ask them whether they want to 1. raise the mean performance of the group, or 2. reduce the variance of the group.  These are very different endpoints as you know, and it results in a different intervention for IGM&#8217;s.  More importantly, it results in a different intervention for SGM&#8217;s, too.  Bottom line for me is to mix them.  That at least harnesses the diversity of insight, though it can cause a drag on performance.  </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ten Rules for Stifling Innovation by keithsawyer</title>
		<link>http://keithsawyer.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/ten-rules-for-stifling-innovation/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>keithsawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your kind compliment!  I hope you enjoy my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your kind compliment!  I hope you enjoy my book.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ten Rules for Stifling Innovation by risingtop</title>
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		<dc:creator>risingtop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello and nice to read your blog.

I've just got your 'Group Genius' from my company's new project called 'Eager to Learn' (my company located in Thailand)

I will finish and review this book as soon as possible.
(We call this 'Book Briefing' - sharing and summarize or review the book on Intranet Knowledge Based Website) 

By the way, I will continue read your blog every free-time I have :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello and nice to read your blog.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just got your &#8216;Group Genius&#8217; from my company&#8217;s new project called &#8216;Eager to Learn&#8217; (my company located in Thailand)</p>
<p>I will finish and review this book as soon as possible.<br />
(We call this &#8216;Book Briefing&#8217; - sharing and summarize or review the book on Intranet Knowledge Based Website) </p>
<p>By the way, I will continue read your blog every free-time I have <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on About Keith Sawyer by elcin cirik</title>
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		<dc:creator>elcin cirik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Sawyer,
 As Capital Magazine, we are preparing a story about ‘how to create successful innovations ideas’. 
I though my subject would be interesting for you. 
Concerning our subject, I would like to ask you some questions. 
If you please answer them, we will be glad to quote. 
Our deadline is 18th of July. 
-How to create successful innovations ideas? What are the secrets of the creative thinking? 
-How can a employee find the best ideas of innovation for his company? Where he should pay attention for finding the good innovation ideas in a company?    
Thank you very much for your interest
Looking forward to your answers
Best Regards
Elcin Cirik
Capital Magazine
Editor
0090 212 410 33 15</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Sawyer,<br />
 As Capital Magazine, we are preparing a story about ‘how to create successful innovations ideas’.<br />
I though my subject would be interesting for you.<br />
Concerning our subject, I would like to ask you some questions.<br />
If you please answer them, we will be glad to quote.<br />
Our deadline is 18th of July.<br />
-How to create successful innovations ideas? What are the secrets of the creative thinking?<br />
-How can a employee find the best ideas of innovation for his company? Where he should pay attention for finding the good innovation ideas in a company?<br />
Thank you very much for your interest<br />
Looking forward to your answers<br />
Best Regards<br />
Elcin Cirik<br />
Capital Magazine<br />
Editor<br />
0090 212 410 33 15</p>
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